So has my shooting buddy, who experienced the same results when I asked him to verify what I was experiencing. Now what they need to do is develop a 8-shot 357/38 revolver for competition shooters, like Ruger did with the Super GP100. They havent. After approximately 150 rounds of CCI/Blazer brass case .38 SPL ammo, the cylinder locked up after the first round of a cylinder-load was fired, wouldnt unlock unless I released the cylinder and swung it open. H&G #43 is a 160 grain. Me, Id be far more interested in the 8 barreled version like the one introduced in 1980. I am more sad than angry over the outcome. In a practical move by Colt, the seemingly odd short-barreled length was set to match Canadian. Colt Python 2020 Review: The Greatest Revolver of All Time? The downside of blueing stainless is that you have to fiddle with it. Customization * * * * * Absolutely not. Across three guns and 1,700 plus rounds, perfect performance. Then go shooting. . Im one of the lucky ones with an original blued piece. And high-qualityrosinis just that. Colt should have stuck to the original. Nice review. The enthusiasm was so high that eager buyers joined a Colt Python waiting list or even paid a premium to get the desirable revolver early. But theres only one way to find out. Now Colt, make more of them. I bet I thumbed back a Python hammer 20,000 times, easy, and let it down on a live round hundreds of times as well, it was definitely a non-problem, why was it fixed? I really enjoyed this review. Colt Python The finest production revolver ever made. I find it in the barrel-to-action threads on some modern rifles. Ive owned more than a few Pythons over the years. The ergonomics of the grip, the outstanding trigger, the smooth action and simple weight of the 46 oz. I have a Galco Summer Comfort and a DeSantis Thumb Break Scabbard for my Ruger GP100 4.2. If you take a look at the King Cobra review, youll know just what the trigger mechanism is on the new Python. Altamont makes some grips for the GP100 that look great, and really class the gun up. The only Colt I ever owned was a SAA. That allows the upper part of the hammer to move farther forward, which allows the lower part of the hammer to move farther forward, which pushes the transfer bar farther forward, which pushes the firing pin about 0.010 inches additionally forward. The only way to get a double action gun back in the game is to get that trigger forward as fast as possible. The cylinder on the 4.25 gun was blasted and caked with powder burns after shooting it, so much so that the cylinder squeaked when I moved it. Unequivocally yes. It is possible to blue stainless steel because it is possible to corrode stainless steel. Is it better than spending hours on the phone? The new 6-inch Anaconda has an unloaded weight of 53 ounces, and an overall length of 13 inches. They just needed to be put on right in the first place. Pythons produced from 1955 to 1969 have no letter in the serial number and are the most desirable to collectors. But it takes much more time (in my limited experience) than blueing steel. Try to keep up with the conversation. When I get my government check, Ill spend it on a Python. I knew they would sell out fast, and that it would likely be quite a while before the Colt marketing department got me a gun to review. Is their a reason why Colt cant put the same surface on the new hammers that the original Pythons had? Both say they fit the Python and SW 686 as well. I kept my Dan Wesson with no regrets. What brand dial indicator is that youre using? Its not and never was a safe queen. This is not a fault of the gun, but poor training for which I was once also a victim. Dear colt, 2.5 round butt, PVD black and you can have my $1499 , https://www.gunbroker.com/item/865604298 This Gun. Very proper. How is it that Mauser made millions of bolt action rifles that went to hell and back for use and conditions, and they never needed thread locker? Spent two hours on hold with Colt before I got a living person on the line and they promised an RMA that never came. If it requires refinishing, it may take longer. The original Pythons were expensive and genuinely premium pieces, this is just overpriced average (and thats assuming they really have fixed the reliability issues). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaumont%E2%80%93Adams_revolver. The average worker in the US would shell out nine days wages to pay for a Python in 1956. Colt said that they had started using thread locker as well as tested to see if the side plates would come loose during firing. Buy Colt Python 2020 ENGRAVED Royal Snake Scale by Altamont 4.25" .357 Mag: GunBroker is the largest seller of Revolvers Pistols Guns & Firearms All: 973467538 . Height is 7.25 inches. Um The double-action revolver predates metallic cartridges. Colt released a few different versions, The Hunter, Silhouette, and 10 Pointer in that barrel length. Most buyers will go out and shoot their stainless guns, but many folks would relegate a blued Python to safe queen status like too many do with the Single Action Army. But they will be more affordable as time goes. How deep have we fallen?! In fact, even after 500 rounds in one session through a revolver, I was surprised the rounds had been expended so fast. In a practical move by Colt, the seemingly odd short-barreled length was set to match Canadian regulations. I contacted Colt and asked for an explanation of these failures. This has always been a popular length in the Python platform since it was introduced in 1964. Of course, the Python was the Holy Grail but was always out of reach money-wise. I suspect most will fit just fine, but many of the best holsters wont. And I was worried Hartford would screw it all up releasing a sub-standard Python. Beauty contest? i left vietnam in jan of 72 and at the end of jan i bought my first 6 blue python and still have to today and i can only say the the python is the greatest handgun ive ever had. Although I find the 4.25 more practical, theres no denying the perfect balance and fast shooting of the 6 version. Months before Colt was able to get me guns to review, the guns from my buddy came in. When you pull the hammer back, you know this is something special. 9mm Pistol. Although the 6 model was also described as a service weapon from the earliest catalogs, the 4 model would be described in advertisements as the Police Python when it was released in 1961. Despite some very heavy hand loads. To my delight, the store told me they usually take 10% off the MSRP but they were having a Christmas sale for an additional 10%. Mark A. Keefe, IV, Editorial Director. That ended up as a bonus to you, the reader. 2020 Colt Python Set .357 Mag 4.25". I told him I wanted a blue 8 in .357 magnum. There is definitely more metal to the top strap. Their recent record indicates they may actually be interested in people who shoot for fun as well as defense. New-in-box 2020 Pythons, in either barrel length, are being sold for about twice the MSRP. There was a small bur around the firing pin hole that would stage on the fired case. You cannot get a new Python with an 8" barrel or blue steel. Of course, the cost of a blued Python would be considerably more. Go back far enough and you can find damn near anything to support your argument. After closing, it would again fire the first round, and lock up again. no more light primer strikes. Colt said that of all of the guns they had produced, only about 25 had been returned for any mechanical reliability issue. Colt brought back the Python in 2020 and it has been consistently selling out since.. How does the new Python affect the value of the old Pythons? The second gun shoots much better but the trigger pull is DA 10lb and the SA is 6lb. I can see where the love of the old pythons come from, but these arent the old guns. Instead, they went with a transfer bar system. I was also considering a high polish prior to nickle boron and then B coverage. Best review Ive seen here in a LONG time. They havent stuck a Hillary Hole on a Python yet to my knowledge? In single action, the triggers average was 4 lbs 5 oz. When the hammer went fully forward and rested against the receiver, it wasnt pushing the transfer bar far enough and the firing pin was not extending far enough. I just hope Colt makes them for a while so all the fan boys can get their fix leaving the rest of us guns we can buy without waiting on a list for months. Another exciting aspect and big reason why rosin is gaining popularity is its versatility. Eventually the initial frenzy will die down, and well see saner street prices for the new Python 2020. There still seems to be some bugs to be worked out. The Python is the only revolver Ive ever considered paying so much for. MSRP: $1,499 (street price about $1700). Although the vented rib and full underlug on the I-Frame Colt may have given it a signature look, its that grips shape that gave the Python its signature feel. Well balanced and poised. Perhaps because of the dirty Harry movies and others. You seem a little giddy in your review. I think its a weak mainspring thats mostly to blame (probably did that to simulate the original refined action) and/or a problem with the transfer bar/hammer. Screw or pin replacable front sight. Ive always wanted a 2.5 one and would buy one of the new ones if they offered the option. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. The shooting hand thumb will find the spur with ease and surety. I prefer a S&W .44 magnum. Not much risk there. Note the last 4 words of the review. Last handgun a man would ever need, anywhere, and look like it belonged on the hip of a Canadian Mounted Patrolman. Reliability * * * * * And, the DA trigger pull went from 9Lb 8oz to 10lb 8oz, the SA went from5lb8oz to 6lb 10oz.. After a few heated conversations on what I should be happy with and the local gun shop owner going to bat for me, Colt said they would replace the gun. Colt certainly sent out guns that were defective. I got my carry license in 1976 and bought a used Trooper MKIII blue 6. Given the myriad of advantages of semi-autos in a self-defense situation, yes that makes revolvers obsolescent. They owned up to that and said that it was their fault. Big black maw waiting to destroy my soul down to the sub atomic level. Oh, and the Official Police? I put the full 1,000 rounds I originally intended to shoot through two guns through one single 6 gun. Every other round fell either on or between those two extremes. I tested the end-shake with three different new Pythons and compared them to several old Pythons, including an unfired 4 gun. are the ones to suffer through the surprises THEN buy it after the Reliability? jwt, thanks for the review. This revolver was manufactured with a variety of barrel lengths. If theyre still being produced later, with no issues and they can be bought for retail or under, Ill consider one. Nah. The Python is cool. PYTHON USED $3,249.99 The Colt Python is a family of six-round double-action revolvers chambered in .357 Magnum. Love my New Python. pweserge, Im speaking practically. The Python has never been an inexpensive weapon. Heck of a startup for a 1600 dollar revolver, if you ask me. The question that everyone will ask is, Does the new Python live up to the name? Yes. No one got a brick. This gun looks fantastic and your review was one of the best Ive read at TTAG in quite awhile. I would guess that the problems mentioned above are people not owning up to improper reassembly. Back in the day I used both eagle and mustang grips, lots of sanding and then a nice finish . BTW, i hope you and Jeremy dont leave TTAG, hands down the best writers/reviewers here! I would guess 1/3rd of the cost of the gun more, and very few would be released. Another problem with the internet revealed. 1 selling revolver among FFLs using the services of GunBroker.com in 2020. The hundreds of rounds of my own reloaded .357 Magnum rounds were all 158gr Speer Gold Dot HPs pushed by 15.3 grains of H110 powder. That number can be increased now that Colt is using a method of less hand fitting and more advanced manufacturing. I read what I thought you meant rather than what you wrote, because what you wrote is dumb. The blueing of stainless often requires you hit a narrow temperature range, sometimes you need to run the salt bath temp up and down through the range to get the blueing to start, then you need to sometimes agitate the salts a bit to keep them blueing the stainless, etc, etc. At no point during any of the shooting did I feel like I was slogging through rounds to check off boxes. They continue today through a variety of guns like their iconic Colt Python and M4 Carbines. Silky smooth trigger. Another nod to the original Pythons is the hammer spur. Double action revolvers and semi-auto pistols were developed at about the same time. Yeah, this gun is a hot mess. Style and Appearance * * * * * Of the guns Ive looked at, none of them have it. Consistent placement on target was a breeze. Then I taught her to shoot a 4 Python with hot .357 loads around 1968, and she could not miss. Im increasingly puzzled why this crap is there. Im curious if you still feel this way a year and half later? There are no clicks to the movement, a continuous turn yields continuous movement of the sight blade. Like the King Cobra, its a brushed stainless like nobody elses. Wow. Tactically- or in the field- it wont do anything a Ruger GP100 wont do I just got mine right before all this lock down stuff. Im betting weve all been there. I second the It was addressed in the article comment. Upon thinking about it, I might just get one of these this summer, just to have a gun that can handle full-power .357s. Got busier since then and havent had time to fight with it. The cylinder continues to rotate until the bolt drops into the next cylinder notch assuring proper alignment of the chamber, barrel, and firing pin before the hammer is released. But the biggest strike against it in my book today is the same thing as the legendary Python of old. Description: COLT PYTHON 2020 PRODUCTION 6" SP6WTS .357 MAGNUM or 38 Special, Stainless Steel, Factory New in box, Serial # PY200XXX. On both the 6 and 4.25 guns, the Armscor 158 gr FMJ in .38 SPL shot the best. Fantastic handling dynamics. So, it seems that defective revolvers are still finding their way into circulation. Colt tells us the Pythons have been in production since November in order to fill the supply chain before the announcement. Its not exactly what the Democrats wanted done with the money, which makes it all the more delightful. I tested both a 6 and a 4.25 trigger. In CA we have to have a 4 inch tube to legally carry while hunting. In front of the sight, just above the muzzle, there is a very small screw. by. Is it a consistent weight, or is it somewhere between 7 and 9 and a half pounds? The new Python has a 5-pound trigger pull, and it isn't clean and crisp. 5 shot .45 Colt capable of safely launching the Ruger Only loads. Quality control now is heavily in the engineering and proactive assembly staging. Not sure if Ill keep it when it returns from Colt, as Im concerned about reliability. The gross tooling marks present under the top strap of my King Cobra did nothing to alleviate my concerns. Trigger is smooth as glass. Pythons have always included a wide, deeply serrated hammer spur as standard. Building on Colt's Snake Gun legacy, the legendary double-action revolver returns in stainless steel in 4.25" and 6" barrel lengths. I had Ted Blocker leather make an appropriate holster for it. They had instead stopped the forward travel right before the last click of the mechanism. I have a 1980 Python that was handed down to me nearly unfired. try desantis holster hybrid. Be advised, I did see a couple of people slowly let the trigger out, and then observe that the cylinder would freeze when they tried to bring it back in. Yes a example that didnt have the problem that many other examples did, just google New Colt Pythons problems,5 to 6 pages should get the point across. Brand new 2020 Python 4.25 inch. By Bob Campbell Published on February 12, 2020 in Firearms Recently, a friend remarked that the new Colt Python, at $1,399 MSRP, could not be as good as the older Pythons. During all of that shooting 1,700+ rounds I found no issues at all with any of the guns. I understand that there was some criticism of the frame in the early models. When I started this review, I hoped to have both the 6 and 4.25 guns on hand. That would explain the extreme prices they are going for in the resale market. Lyman oven makes around a 190 grain mold. I have fond memories of my youth shooting several Pythons. The mainspring is the same V-type as the King Cobra. Youre looking for a company run by God. I was going to buy another AR but the Colt seems more appropriate. To be fair, metallic cartridge revolvers predate practical semi-autos by almost half a century. I couldnt hit the bank fast enough. Never had an issue. The new Python is built out of stronger stainless steel than the originals and is available with a 3 in (7.6 cm), 4.25 in (10.8 cm) or 6 in (15 cm) barrel. Its so good that they had function problems with the shootable examples at Shot Show Media Day,cylinders failed to advance . I owned 2 6 originals, never liked them, sold one to a pal for what I paid for it ($160) and sent the other back for a 4 barrel. The announcement of the new production Colt Python in 2020 was a surprise for many firearms fans, as the famous snake gun had been out of production since 2005. No free cheese. It isnt until shooting the full pressure .357 Magnum loads that I can tell much of a difference between the recoil management of the 6 and 4.25 barrels. Colt took less than perfect functioning examples to their big roll out at shot show, what manufacturing company doesnt check out examples before a event like Shot for their premiere. Mfg Part Number. I wanted this to be my best gun, I wanted to love this gun. Not saying that S&W and Ruger, the two big players in that space, are bad by any means (theyre not!). Sure beats some of the plastic guns and ARs which are that price or more. These grips fill a single hand well, finishing just below the pinky of my size-large hand. Colt Python 6 (I did have one Armscor .357 Magnum 158gr FMJ round fail to fire, but it also failed to do so in two other guns.). The new Python carries a hefty $1499 price tag and they are just about impossible to find. Yes, the Colt action is powered by a V spring that returns the trigger and the Smith and Wesson features a trigger return spring. I was unusually emotionally invested in an inanimate object, not for the object itself, but for the memories it evoked. Barrel Length: 6 in. Mostly we shoot .38 Spl and .357M, because thats what the wife and I happen to reload most (she prefers .38 Spl for its ease of shooting). A stainless GP100 is one of the guns that I just cant seem to keep. The new Pythons didnt need thread locker. I got on the order train as fast as I could, asking for both a 6 and 4.25 gun from my distributor. Lots of great detail, good pics, and I think a honest critical analysis of what you really saw vs Internet myth or focusing on early production miscues. Good shooting! If it makes your heart flutter and your blood pressure spike with joy, by all means, go for it. I really liked that gun, but sold it many years ago to help pay for my house. Same here. We are cranking out some CRAZY manufacturing designs and tolerances now and fantastic pieces from companies like Ruger that have updated most of their equipment with massive expenditures on equipment overhaul. Even still, they currently have an 11,000 unit production backlog. I didnt lube them again or clean them until I was taking photos. The .002 seemed a little loose. Pushing is a far more natural action. I dont care for the difficulty I read about getting in touch with them. I take a different view than many people. I assigned that King Cobra to one of my older kids to learn to shoot with and between he and I, it now has thousands of rounds through it., Jon, have I told you how much I thing of you as my dad? New-production Colt Pythons retailed for $125 in the late '50s, which is the equivalent of $1,350 in 2023. They were one of the reason I picked an Anaconda back in the early 90s for my first wheel gun, over a S&W or Ruger. The Python is back! I have never had cause to call customer service for a repair for a Colt gun, but I did call them about the marks on the underside of the King Cobra for that review. The current 2020 Python is closer to the Ultimate Stainless finish, and far more polished than the base stainless version. Dont mind the negative Nancys who are complaining. Kinda like the amount of people who say they were at the original Woodstock concert! Grouping straight out of the box is excellent as expected. Yup! New wood grips that you modified to fit you . I was ready to be angry. Classic Python style put six stars in this category before we even started. Outstanding value. It is friggin gorgeous. I pulled the side plates from each of the new guns I had access to. Rather, I like a full underlug that extends toward the muzzle and stops just short, angling up to the muzzle, like Ruger GP100 and Taurus revolvers. I carry my four inch gun from time to time. Snarky comment aside, thanks for the review. Prior to the development of modern hollow-points even the good old .45 AARP had issues when compared against the monster cartridges you can load into a revolver frame. The new Python opts for a similar but different style rounded wire V shaped mainspring. Stainless steel is not as pretty as blued. The same feeler gauge that measured .003 wouldnt quite fit in the new Python. Too many recycled stories and a lack of depth. My handgun battery is about evenly split between revolvers and semi-autos. Both guns were (and are) lasers and were an absolute joy to shoot. The Colt Python is the legendary production revolver and requires no introduction. Some were of significant value. The eye picks it up easily, and combined with the rear sight, its effective at making both quick and precise shots. In January of 2020 a new Colt Python rolled out of the factory and it was the No. A 1956 catalogue lists a Colt Trooper at $71. My concern seems to be unfounded. Colt notes that the rear of the top strap has more steel there than the originals, leading to a stronger revolver. I not seen anyone address whether the new model has a tapered bore. You mentioned the difference in the actions. Strike one. After all, the older Pythons were bringing in $2-3,000 each. $1500 may be a lot now, but $729.95 was a lot in 1990. You have to do all the polishing and cleaning you would on steel, and then your fun starts. As a gunsmith, I find thread locker in more and more and more places on modern firearms. Ill have to pass, thank you very much. Heres a corrosive agent (ie, blueing salts) you couuld use for the job: https://du-lite.com/shop/du-lite-3-0-salts/. The python had a lot of hand fitting and polishing, where as every piece on this gun was probably CNC machined. These were a very nice .22 target pistol in their day. Theres just something about seeing her petite self (with ponytail and shooter cap) holding big gun downrange and sending hot lead onto steel that makes me smile. Very thorough, and I suspect, took some time. They were put there because they look cool. Can you recommend anyone to do this work on say, a new 4.25 Colt Python? 606-787-7575. My contact there said it was to comply with minimal barrel length restrictions in Canada. I'm going to be contacting Colt tomorrow. Got to understand the action and stick with it. I walked out with the gun for $403.60 tax included. Happy out of the army to me! Please keep us informed like this. 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